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    First of all...an honest answer is I DON'T KNOW.

    I would like to think that I wouldn't...I mean, yeah I probably wouldn't but depending on the rewards, maybe.

    There's a lot of things that people are willing to do if it means there is personal gain to be had.

    But the reality is, no one gets REALLY famous and successful making docos.

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    everyone has their price. EVERYONE.

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    imagine this scenario:

    you have a stable, well paid job, making documentaries, including the subject of current global terrorism.

    one day a rough looking individual comes knocking on your door, asking you to get involved in telling the truth about the situation in his country. he explains that he is a freedom fighter.

    do you get involved? do you report him? do you exploit him? do you even believe him?

    ???

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    Davis you softy.... that's a big fat yes. What is a documentary without following such leads and perhaps even feigning empathy with their cause. Hell I've watched all sorts of dodgy crap as a documentist... it's part of the thrill. If you can't even bring yoursewlf to follow a lead like that you're in the wrong job.

    I personally think mikers pulled the stakes down a little too low... lets raise them a little bit again.

    You've got a great script which you've co-written with a recent friend. You don't know each other very well but you've worked this script out really quite well between you. One day your standing in a queue for a sandwich and some guy cracks a joke infront. You laugh out loud and he turns round to crack another joke with you. Half shocked half laughing you see that it's Bruce Willis. Amazingly he turns out to be a right laugh and you sit down together to eat your lunch. This tall story gets even taller when you mention your script. He shows an interest and you leave a copy with him.
    A few weeks pass, you try to phone your co-writer but he's off on holiday. Then Bruce's agent gets on the phone to you.... he wants to do it! but only if some things get changed. You arrange a meeting.

    When you meet up Bruce asks you directly which bits you wrote and which bits your friend wrote. As it turns out, by a sheer coincidence, the bits which Bruce finds weak are the bits your friend wrote. He summarises that he's willing to do this film if you rewrite the script without your mate. Bruce wants to go with you.... forget your co-writer.

    What would you do?

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    drop the co-writer but retain him a credit.

    this happened on the Empire Strikes Back screen play when the (credited) Leigh Brackett died and then had her version thrown out.

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    ahh but this co-writer isn't conveniently dead. Plus, just for the sake of argument, the script is based upon his idea in the first place......

    still prepared to drop and burn?

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    if my holidaying colleague retains the intellectual property rights then I would be a fool to push the project forward without him, or before calling him up and asking his opinion.

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    I'd ditch the friend by giving him a payoff and saying that Bruce was actually more interested in me as a lover and that I would take the brunt of his obsessions. my friend would still receive credit and I'd be asking for bit parts in Willis' movies

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    Hmm, that question is a little more grey then the other one. I'd have to know what he was (or at least says he was) fighting for.

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    First of all, I wouldn't be bending over backwards over what Bruce Willis had to say over my (our) script.

    Second of all, if I wanted Bruce Willis in my film (unlikely!) and I agreed with Bruce about the script, then yeah, I'd probably screw my co-writer and head solo with my best bud Bruce.

    Thirdly, if I saw any potential in my co-writer and was interested in further collaborations with the dude, then no way would i screw them over for a macho overindulged actor.

    It all depends on how much I liked my co. And i'd take into consideration that Bruce WIllis isn't gold. He has had a few flops in his career so his judgement may not be all that sound.

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